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RE: ..... salary, holidays, & working at a public school....

McLovin's picture
Submitted by McLovin on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 12:28.

Hi Guys / Gals

Just wanted to ask a couple of questions for anyone who might know:

* What's the going rate (monthly salary) for a full time teacher at a public school?

* Do teachers get paid for holidays as well?

* What kind of weekly hours should I be looking at if on monthly salary?

* Is it legal to quit and break a written contract if offered a better job?

thanks
Bob Villa

(this old house)

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Jazz's picture

In my experience public

Submitted by Jazz on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 12:47.

In my experience public schools pay anywhere from 550 - 800 dollars an hour for the hourly worker. If you are looking at working full time, you will need to investigate how many teaching hours are required and how much time you are required to be at the school.

If you are a monthly/salary employee, you should be paid for holidays and also receive sick days. Make sure it is stated in your contract.

I think it is always legal to quit a job as long as you do it professionally and give enough notice to the school. Check your contract, and DON"T let them withhold any money from you (something that could be returned as an end of the year bonus). It is illegal.

Here is something from toshuo.com regarding teaching in general and at public schools:

Public High Schools

  • There is definitely a big variety in the English teaching jobs within the public school system. There isn’t much central planning, or if there is, it’s not effective. In theory only high schools can hire foreigners directly, but in practice many middle schools and a few elementary schools do too. At most schools there is only a very bare-bones curriculum and the teacher is left to his or her own devices. Speaking some Chinese is usually but not always tolerated. Classes usually have a HUGE variance in English proficiency. Some students are also attending bŭxíbāns, or did in the past. Those who haven’t are, naturally enough, way behind.

    Compensation

    At public schools, there is large variance in not only pay, but also in duties. Many schools require that you stay from 8:30 A.M. until 5:00 PM and grade tests, help the local teachers with their English, or perform other administrative duties. Usually the pay is a salary between $65,000 and $80,000 per month.

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    Sounds like a good stable

    Submitted by Bugsy on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:35.

    Sounds like a good stable gig, if one is used to the "punching in and punching out" 9 to 5 regime. Thanks for the info Jazz. Found it very helpful. Also heard, they only hire Bachelors and Masters in EDUCATION, no one else. Any truth to that?

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    Thanks for the info.

    Submitted by McLovin on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:39.

    Thanks for the info. Jazz.

    Here's another question I'd like to add but I probably already know the answer, "Does education level or experience really matter?"

    Or does this only apply to places like international schools?

    I know many people have told me that all I need is a degree in Basket-Weaving 101 or Home-Ec and that will suffice (....probably true?)

    Bob

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    McLovin's picture

    Hi Bugsy As far as I know a

    Submitted by McLovin on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:50.

    Hi Bugsy

    As far as I know a public school cannot hire a foreigner who does not possess a valid teaching certification and they must also have their permanant teaching license as well.

    You can work for a public school if you have a cram school hold your working visa and then you can legally work part time at the school.

    Bob

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    Bob, From my own personal

    Submitted by Bugsy on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:50.

    Bob,

    From my own personal experience - I got education, scholarships and professional American and Canadian designations, up the ying yang. But, they are not in the field of education/teaching. So, none of the cram schools either care, or bother to even ask me about them. They simply say, you got a Bachelors - and, I don't really care or mind, when they say that. The pay is no different even if you hold a freaking Ph.d in Nuclear Physics. They consider that unrelated. But, thats my own personal experience. It's like, you got a Bachelor's, here's the hourly rate - take it, or leave it. heh

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    Thanks for the info Bob.

    Submitted by Bugsy on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 13:58.

    Thanks for the info Bob. Much appreciated. I have the teaching license. I am not looking for additional hours at present, but your information will certainly come handy someday. As far as teaching experience is concerned, I have quite a bit, but you know what? It didn't matter when it came to hourly pay. It simply meant, I got a job offer, every time I gave a demo. But, then again, thats my own experience. When I requested a better pay rate, to any of the schools, the attitude's like, well, thats the going industry rate.

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    Hi Guys Here's a weird

    Submitted by McLovin on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 15:52.

    Hi Guys

    Here's a weird question that probably no one knows:

    Are foreign teachers elligible for pension or can they contribute to a pension fund through the school?

    Bob Villa

    This old house
    (should I use my pension fund to fix my rotting deck or buy a new Hyundai.....hmmmm)

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    I have absolutely no idea,

    Submitted by Bugsy on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 15:56.

    I have absolutely no idea, how THAT works. However, someone recently told me, that he just accepted an offer at a 'real American' school, complete with a pension, at another city. I am assuming, he meant an international school, which might be more organised when it comes to pensions and like.

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    Unless you are working for a

    Submitted by Jazz on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 16:07.

    Unless you are working for a more professional school, like an American School or university I think your chances are nill.

    You're better off exchanging your money to Euros and stuffing them into your pillow case.

    This is a question that a union could answer, relating back to Paul Steeds post about that. We don't have one though.

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    I second that motion!

    Submitted by Bugsy on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 16:18.

    I second that motion! However, I would change it into RMB/Yuan, as a "long term, buy and hold" and then, bury it inside the toilet's water tank...in plastic.

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    How would a pension work out

    Submitted by mrpaulsteed on Mon, 06/23/2008 - 22:29.

    How would a pension work out here anyway? You're going to work for a few years at one school and then trust them to kick in with payments when you're 65?

    Don't trust anyone else when it comes to financial security in your dotage. It's easy to save in Taiwan. Work hard when you can, invest it in a diverse portfolio, forget about it until the time comes.

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